In response to Rizal Hashim - hoki kena ikut bola

http://rizalhashim.blogspot.com/2011/10/hoki-kena-ikut-bola.html

In my honest opinion it boils down to 4 factors - money, structure, popularity, enforcement

Fact is hockey does not have the maturity, depth, and ground structure that football offers to the community neither does it pull in the $$$$ as compared to football

Management of competitions, development and training have NEVER been properly attended to nor enforced as they do not have long term planning or the conviction. There is no structured calendar and it is always a yo-yo decision making year after year. There are facts

money
almost all states are reliant to government or development funding, the ability to raise fund and build on their own if difficult, all state hockey association do not have ground they own to manage or any form of revenue generation form naming right to jersey sponsorship

structure (competitions)
because the sport of hockey at national level is played seasonally for a period of 2 or 3 months there is no continued competiton for players. You have the national league for a period of 5-12 weeks and thats about it, the rest of the year the clubs who tie these players for a contract over a year do not have much to do.

State competitions too are minimal and short, this is both due to cost of taking partner in long terms competition versus national team calendar.

Note : Our national team is one of the most traveled and has the longest training camp compared to any of the top 10 playing nations in the world

Most states do not have league or even proper playing venue, those that do are at the mercy of the state to pay rental fees etc etc, when it come to maintenance or replacing the turf the states rather let it become a white elephant case in point Selangor having 2 turf and both not playable...and they organize their league games in KL!!!

Getting a SOP out for tournament rules, disciplinary action, stadium requirements are there but not enforced. Selangor Hockey Association introduced a code of conduct for all players and officially to sign for any tournament organized, match official are also trained in game situation, methodology of writing reports and review of match sheets but this is not emulated at national competition and national level.

So when it comes to disciplinary action ther eis always going to be a grey line of application.

We do not have SOP on club transfers, so what club do is tied down players to year long contracts, there is no transfer fees coz the rules do not apply when it comes to player eligibility and not economically viable

In review of the MHL, the amount of money spent on the team for a 2 month competition is far more bigger then the prize money, granted we have airtime on ASTRO but you got to go out there and market the league, sell it as a package, tie up corporations to club 2+1 contracts, we are not doing that. Any medium sized corporation given the air time the league team gets on ASTRO would be able to sell its position on a jersey or team name.

There is also an ambiguity of sponsorship, TNB give MHF the money but all the money is channeled to the league, one party claims they are already giving money to the national body, should that not be filtered down to the states, another party says the money is only for the league and shockingly this is a 7 figure sum.

If MHF are serious about marketing the league then they should bring into consideration license of players, while it may be cumbersome on the initial application over the long term the requirement for a players license will help regulate the add on effects of players transfer, ownership. the overall goal is to raise the standards of the league.

I do not blame if one club dominates the league as they have the financial muscle for it, but I am against the notion that they need to be curtailed. Hockey in Malaysia has more then just 20 great payers, its a matter for getting them, training them and developing then, the onus for this like with the clubs and states.

We do not have a structured calendar compared to football which is very seasonal our calendar depends on the result. For example in 2010 if we do not qualify for the Olympics then calendar changes, if we qualify national hockey competitions is put on hold.

Without national players in the league it is very hard to attract sponsors, raise the standards of the league and increase viewership.

My two cents

Time and time again we do not have the conviction to make brave decisions for the good of the game...if at all times its gonna be a popularity contest whats the point.

Time and time again we become the laughing stock of other nations because of our compromises, inability to make a stand.

1. For MHC there are no states that are affiliates of MHC only reps from MWHA & MHF.

2. States cannot be affiliates of MHC & MHF - dont make sense dual membership. Name the state that hold dual membership??

3. Be brave
a) Invite as per the constitution the reps from MHF & MWHA to the EOGM - they are the one with the power to change the constitution

b) Invite the states as OBSERVERS for the EOGM as they are not members

c) Full membership for states that have merged the men's and womens like KL, Penang and a few others entitled 1 vote

d) Provisional membership for states that have separate bodies for men or women. For a term of one year - this forces them to merge or else they dont get voting rights coz at present state that have merger get 1 vote, states not merged dun have any votes.

e) Reduce the number of VP. go back to the basics 1 President 2 Deputy President (1 guy 1 lady if you really want) 3-4 VP dats it then ur sec-gen Treas-gen and states are council members.

4. Make a stand
States struck off bar them... yes it kill hockey at lower levels but its the law, go down tothe ground, meet reps there work with them ot revive the body

well dats my two cents

Wat the heck are you trying to do?

Did someone shift the goalpost when were not looking??

In today news NST Hockey: MHC prepares to take over - spoke about the merger of the men's and women's hockey association in line with the international governing body (FIH) December deadline.

Fine and dandy, then came the shocker where only 10 affiliates from each body were invited. So there is an uproar from the remaining 6 on the men's side and god knows how many more on the affiliates on the women side.


Here is what I cant figure out so can someone explain to me like I am a 6 year old? Cos this is what I dont understand

1. MHF http://www.malaysiahockey.com.my/- 16 affiliates,
2. MWHA http://mhc-mwha.org - 9 affiliates
Pulau Pinang, Perak, Selangor, N. Sembilan, Kuala Lumpur, Pahang, Terengganu, Sarawak & PDRM

MHC was formed on July 16th
On Jul 17, 2005 in the NST - MHC the solution - by Jugjet Singh
THE Malaysian Hockey Confederation (MHC) was born yesterday, and will be operational once the Sports Commissioner's office endorses it. The Malaysian Hockey Federation (MHF) and the Malaysian Women's Hockey Association (MWHA) met yesterday, and agreed that the best compromise to satisfy the International Hockey Federation (FIH) was to have MHC as the umbrella body. The MHC will be responsible for organising international tournaments, but the local leagues and other development programmes will still be run separately by the MHF and the MWHA.
MHF president Raja Nazin Shah said they had three options on how to satisfy the FIH, and the MHC was accepted by all. "The first proposal was to merge the MHF and the MWHA and the body would be called the MHF, and the second proposal was to have a body called the MHF with Malaysian Hockey Association and the MWHA as members.

"But the third proposal, which was to have the MHC with the MHF and MWHA as members was the most popular," said Raja Nazrin. The MHC will have no more than 10 elected office bearers each from the MHF and the MWHA. The proposal will be sent to the Sports Commissioner's office tomorrow.

The MHC will have a president, a deputy president, four vice-presidents, four council members, one secretary, one assistant secretary, one treasurer, one assistant treasurer and not exceeding four independent members.

"The election will also be fair for the MHC, and for example, if the president is from the MHF, then the deputy president will be from the MWHA," said Raja Nazrin. And the situation is the same for the other positions. For example, two vice presidents will be from the MHF, while two from the MWHA. And if the secretary is from the MWHA, then the assistant secretary will be from the MHF. "The representation will be on a 50-50 ratio, as we want both the men and women to be equally represented when making decisions," said Raja Nazrin.

Elections will be held every two years, and if there are any conflicts in either the MHF or the MWHA, the MHC's decision will reign supreme. "We have always had a good working relationship with the MHF, and this new umbrella body will make it even better," said MWHA president Raja Puan Sri Noora Ashikin Raja Abdullah.


a) Now the members of MHC are MHF & MWHA so how did states apply to be direct members of MHC?

b) When did the constitution of the MHC change to increase its membership to include other states?

c) are the 10 states holding dual membership in MHC & MHF???

d) By right the only people who can vote at the MHC-EOGM are reps from MHF & MWHA, the reps from the states are observers

e) States hockey association merges or un-merged needs to apply to be members of MHC you can de-facto transfer membership from one association to another. The constitution stats that clearly.


The OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF MALAYSIA - TWENTY FIFTH ANNUAL REPORT FOR PERIOD 1ST JUNE 2006 to 15TH MAY 2007
In compliance with the directive of the International Hockey Federation, the Malaysian Hockey Federation and the Malaysian Women’s Hockey Association was amalgamated to form the Malaysian Hockey Confederation (MHC). As a result, the Malaysian Hockey Federation and the Malaysian Women’s Hockey Association ceased to be Ordinary Members of OCM, with the Malaysian Hockey Confederation taking their place. The Council approved the Malaysian Hockey Confederation as the sole governing body for Hockey in Malaysia on 14th October 2006.

So when I read the news article that only 10 states can be sent letters to something is VERY WRONG!!! States are not members of MHC, they are members of MHF & MHWA, they have no voting rights they are observers.

Only members of MHC can vote at the EOGM - now you have to define who are the members of MHC

The problem is the organization are not being transparent on who are the 10, how they got selected and most importantly will it be legal... We cant continue time and time again making blunders and then paying the consequences for it